Great Geek Dinner

I went to Robert Scoble and Shel Israel's (co-authors of Naked Conversations) Geek Dinner at the Cheesecake factory on Friday night. I had a great time, with fantastic conversations, which I'll discuss in the morning. :P :p

Dave Winer captured the event and has the set up on Flickr, including one of Marc Canter with me in the foreground, looking somewhat dæmonic.

From the conversations tonight, I did come to a realization about one difference between the first awakening of the Internet and Web2.0. The Internet went from academic to government to corporate and then to consumer use. Web2.0 is starting with the consumers; once the philosophies, techniques and technologies are proved out in the public playing field, they move into corporate structures.

Enterprise Architecture: Thought Leadership Questions

James, thank you for the comment on the preceding post.

Sadly though, they can't provide the answer to the following questions asked at regarding open source to their readers..end quotation
-- Comment from James

Not being an industry analyst, per se, I didn't answer this when I first saw it on your blog, Enterprise Architecture: Thought Leadership Also, I'm not sure who "they" are, but I feel as though the gauntlet has been thrown down. :) So, here are the questions from Outstanding questions for Industry Analysts on Open Source with my poor attempts at answers.

  1. How can human resource departments find talented people from the open source community so I can support open source internally?
    The same way that they do for any other set of skills. We've been lucky in having a great recruiter, Cheri Ruiz, who has worked for us at IASC and previously at CapTech. She knew how to bring in talent that fit well with our team. We also abhor the current methods of quickie interviews. We bring folk in for at least half-a-day. They go through technical interviews, and then some group socializing - lunch or coffee, something out of the office for an hour with the team with which they'll be working. This has been my best practice for hiring since my first management position 26 years ago.
  2. Which corporations whose business is not technology are currently contributing to open source projects?
    I think it's hard to find companies that are contributing to open source projects in general, let alone non-tech companies. There are, of course, the big names that have been doing so for some time, such as IBM, HP, Sun, Oracle, etc, mostly to Linux, and not a wide range of Open Source software projects. This also gets into one of your other questions concerning best practices for contributing.
  3. Which open source projects are pervasively implemented in my particular industry vertical?
    Actually, this is one area in which you'll have problems finding open source solutions - industry specific software. Most open source software is pretty horizontal, and general in its focus.
  4. Where would I expect to see non-commercial open source projects beat proprietary vendor products?
    Mostly in infrastructure software, such as operating systems, web servers, email servers. application servers, and the like. One user facing exception is Firefox. The rise of BI software (see the linkblog in the sidebar) this year, as well as some enterprise packages such as Compiere and SugarCRM, may result in some different answers to this in 2006 and 2007.
  5. What are some "best practices" for corporations who would like to contribute to the open source community?
    Hitting that PayPal button is always nice. &#59;) Assinging a tech writer to produce and contribute documentation would be a great boon to many open source projects. And, as mentioned in other comments to James' post, assigning a developer as a go-to person for bug fixes and enhancement certainly serves the long tail aspect of open source development.
  6. How can corporations participate in creating open-source industry analysis?
    This is a good question. The analyst community isn't that interested in open source, as the open source projects can't afford to pay them, as the commercial vendors do. But... if enough CIO's, VPITs, etc show the interest, the analysts will have to come around; demand and get supplied.

James, thanks for asking.

Update: Some additions to number 4, which I forgot since I was using one of them at the time. Open source software for blogging, wikis, CMS and portals is very good, very mature, and generally equals or beats COTS software. We use b2evolution for blogging, MediaWiki for wikis, Mambo for CMS. There are also some other interesting open source projects for collaboration that don't exist in COTS, such as dotProject and TUTOS.

Open Source Will be the Most Discussed tech Issue

One of the most discussed "communications/computer technology impacts society" issues in 2005 main stream media was undoubtedly blogging, and the related read-write web topics of Web2.0, podcasts, vlogs, and tagging. Shel Israel predicts that the topic of 2006 will be Open Source.

9. The technology issue most discussed will no longer be the blog, but open source and its impact or disappointment on technology development o all levels everywhere.end quotation
-- Shel Israel "10 More 2006 Predictions"

I think one caveat to this is to consider the circle of conversation to which you're pointing. Is it main stream media in the main, or just the technology snippet that is often thrown out to prove they're cool? The majority of people don't have a blog, don't understand what makes a blog different from any other web site, and don't see any of the social networking or consumer-as-producer, read-write web, semantic web, Web2.0, etc. stuff having an impact on their life yet. I think that the same applies to open source software, content, intellectual un-property and other open movements. But they will.

Miss Rogue discovered this over the holidays.

Over dinner tonight with my parents, there was a little lightbulb moment for both of us... For me, it was, "Gee, otherwise, nobody in the real world gives a shit about open source, social networks and my so-called life online stuff." Even my parents, who I would think would be fascinated by it. Ha.end quotation
-- Tara Hunt "The Trouble with Normal"

Societal and behavioral changes take decades, if not generations, to become fully ingrained; be it the roads and aqueducts of the Romans, the telegraph, telephone, radio, railroad and automotive technologies that ushered in the 20th century, or the command, control, communications, computation and intelligence technologies that are ushering in this century.

But I'm very glad to see Shel recognize the importance of Open Source. As Web2.0 and Open Source become better defined by the early adopters, and as these philosophies resolve real business and personal issues, we'll see the resulting technologies, behavior and business models become integrated into the daily lives of the main stream.

But let's all try to have fun as we work towards that goal.

Peace and Joy

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Thank you, Jonathan. 'Tis a nice thought... If only I read Korean. :)

BTW, if Scott stills plays golf with Howard Jansen, please ask him to give my regards to Howard.

Happy Holidays to all at Sun.

Christmas Throughout the Blogosphere

Christmas day is almost done. We've come upstairs from my parents'. [For those who don't know, 6 years ago I bought a home with two apartments so that my parents, in their 70's could come live out here - of course, they're both in better health than I am] &#59;)

Supper tonight was more simple than in the years when Bunkey, a college chum, moved from California to Iraq. Without his appetite, we just can't eat like in the olden times.

  1. We had some snacks early in the afternoon, truffled paté, hams and cheeses, greek olives in oil
  2. We just finished supper, and that started with the traditional holiday soup of small Abruzzi meatballs, cubes of parseley frittata, & spinach in chicken stock
  3. A simple green salad and ravioli in meat sauce

And finally, we ate the chocolate cake that was bought for my birthday this past Solstice.

The blogosphere was fairly quite quiet this holiday. The most entertaining meme happening around Dave Winer's sentiments and Mike Arrington's response. Miss Rogue said it was raining in San Francisco; well, 20 miles south along the coast, it was storming most of the day - heavy winds, heavy rain. And Letti stopped by for a visit - thank you Letti, the food was good; I wish I could let you taste it. That's what we really need, realization of the MIME type X-matter-transport. It's in the RFC after all. I also want to wish happy holidays to Nick, another BI consultant that we just met through our Open Source Solutions blog. I thought it was very funny when Dave started reciting carols in his wordpress blog.

I think that everyone, especially Dave and Mike, needs to read Shel's most wondrous holiday posts...

To my partner, Clarise, who's visiting family in the land of Oz. Happy day after to you , your sisters and their husbands, and to Athena, Sophia, Aletheia and Fedder. And of course to all your family in the Philippines. Kwawa ng Clarise... She's in blogging hell. She wouldn't take a laptop, after all, the house is full of computers and WiFi, and she can always moBlog. Except, all the computers are being used for family video projects, and she can't get a signal from her sister's home. Oh well, maybe we'll have some vlogs when she gets back. :>>

And to all, a good night.

update, 23h47 PST: The storm now has thunder and lightning. Cool. There is nothing more awesome than lightning bolts hitting the ocean.

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